• 06月21日 星期五

美国网友:流浪地球2在美国上映了,你如何评价?(组图)

科幻电影流浪地球2作为国产重工业电影的里程碑,不仅在国内火热,也正在海外掀起波澜,受到了外国人的关注和观看。在海外问答网站Quora上,美国网友提问,中国科幻电影流浪地球2在美国上映了,你觉得怎么样?我们看看各国网友的回答。


美国网友:流浪地球2在美国上映了,你如何评价?(组图)



问题:如何评价流浪地球2?

"Wandering Earth 2" is a science fiction film full of Chinese spirit and telling Chinese romantic stories. The international discourse in the new century is firmly in the hands of European and American countries. These countries spread their understanding of the world and try to cover the cultures of other countries with cultural hegemony.

《流浪地球2》是一部充满中国精神、讲述中国浪漫故事的科幻电影。新世纪的国际话语权牢牢掌握在欧美国家手中。这些国家散布他们对世界的理解,并试图用文化霸权覆盖其他国家的文化。

But Wandering Earth II expresses the following Chinese views to the world:

但《流浪地球II》向世界表达了以下中国观点:

A hero is never someone, but each of us.

英雄从来不是某个人,而是我们每个人。

We can always see in American Hollywood movies that the world is suffering from the crisis of extinction, and movies tell us that there is only one way to save the world. The United States government only sent a team to solve the world extinction crisis. In the end, it often depends on one person, who is the hero that the film wants to portray.

我们总能在美国好莱坞电影中看到,世界正遭受着灭绝的危机,而电影告诉我们,拯救世界只有一条路。美国政府只派出一个团队来解决世界灭绝的危机。最终,这往往取决于一个人,而这一个人就是电影想要塑造的英雄。


美国网友:流浪地球2在美国上映了,你如何评价?(组图)



Among the wandering earth, UEG (United Earth Government) put forward hundreds of self-help plans in total, and finally verified the following four plans: the plan to move mountains (China, to promote the earth to escape from the sun), the ark (the United States, to build a space station to escape from the sun), driving the moon (Russia, to move to the moon, to promote the earth to escape from the sun), and digital life (India, to digitize consciousness to escape reality).

在流浪地球中,UEG(联合地球政府)总共提出了数百项自救计划,并最终验证了以下四项计划:移山计划(中国,推动地球逃离太阳)、方舟(美国,建造空间站逃离太阳),驾驶月球(俄罗斯,迁移到月球,推动地球脱离太阳),数字生活(印度,将意识数字化以逃避现实)。

In the task of restarting the Internet, the three network centers have sent several backup teams to complete the task.

在重启互联网的任务中,三个网络中心已派出多个备份团队来完成任务。

Throughout the film and in all the plans, we can hear the languages of different countries. Although this is a film with three Chinese protagonists, we can still see the efforts of the United States, Russia and other countries occupying an important position, such as Russians in space and Americans in basic science.

在整个电影中,在所有的计划中,我们都能听到不同国家的语言。虽然这是一部有三位中国主角的电影,但我们仍然可以看到美国、俄罗斯和其他占据重要地位的国家的努力,比如太空领域的俄罗斯人和基础科学领域的美国人。


美国网友:流浪地球2在美国上映了,你如何评价?(组图)



The world belongs to mankind, not a country.

世界属于人类,而不是某个国家。

In European and American movies, we can always see such a story template: a non-white or non-European and American nation was oppressed by a tyrant, a white man came here, a minority of black people, they converted to European and American culture, and led the local people to fight against the tyrant. They finally won independence and freedom. At the same time, a woman with high local ethnic status often falls in love with the white protagonist.

在欧美电影中,我们总能看到这样一个故事模板:一个非白人或非欧美民族被暴君压迫,一个白人男性来到这里,少数是黑人,他们皈依了欧美文化,并带领当地人对抗暴君。他们最终赢得了独立和自由。与此同时,一位当地民族地位很高的女性经常爱上白人主角。

These films seem to convey the idea of equality, but only the equality led by white people. The white man is the chosen savior. The world is waiting for the white man to save it. No matter how you explain it, this is how these movies bring Chinese people's feelings.

这些电影似乎确实传达了平等的理念,但只有白人领导的平等。白人是被选中的救世主。全世界都在等待白人来拯救它。无论你如何辩解,这就是这些电影带给中国人的感受。

But in this Chinese story, what saves the world is China's engineering capability, the United States' computer technology, Russia's space technology, and the efforts of all countries in the world, no matter how big or small. Each of us is inseparable from each other, and our destiny is closely linked.
但在这个中国故事中,拯救世界的是中国的工程能力、美国的计算机技术、俄罗斯的航天技术,以及世界上所有国家的努力,无论大小。我们每个人都离不开彼此,我们的命运紧密相连。

At this point, this is a long enough answer. To be honest, it has nothing to do with the quality of the film. Of course, the quality of this film is also very good. This is mainly about China's attitude expressed in the film. This attitude is not the mainstream attitude of European and American films, which may cause controversy. So I will stop here.

在这一点上,这是一个足够长的答案,老实说,这与电影的质量无关。当然,这部电影的质量也非常棒。这主要是关于中国在电影中表达的态度。这种态度并不是欧美电影的主流态度,这可能会引起争议。所以我就到此为止。

In short, the above voices also reflect the continuous progress of China's power in recent years. There will continue to be such voices in China, and China will also question this attitude. But the success of this film in the Chinese market shows that this is the collective attitude of the Chinese people and the connotation of Chinese culture.

总之,上述声音也是近年来中国力量不断进步的体现。中国国内会继续有这样的声音,中国也会对这种态度产生疑问。但这部电影在中国市场的成功表明,这是中国人的集体态度,也是中国文化的内涵。

The Wandering Earth 2 is a very good film that takes a leap forward for Chinese science fiction films and is more realistic than the first one.

《流浪地球2》是一部很好的影片,它实现了中国科幻电影的飞跃性跨越,相比于第一部,显得更真实。

This kind of movie is no worse than Interstellar. It not only marks the establishment of the industrialization system of Chinese science fiction films, but also represents the essence of the Chinese people's feelings of home and country and the thought of the community of human destiny.

这种电影丝毫不输《星际穿越》,它不单单是标志着中国科幻电影的工业化体系的建立,更代表这中国人的家国情怀和人类命运共同体的思想精华。

It was like the history of the future and I was really immersed in it. All the art design was very thoughtful, such as a two-second space elevator shot in the feature film, which took two years from design to completion.

它就像未来的历史一样真正的让我沉浸在其中,所有的美术设计都很用心,比如一个在正片中出现了两秒的太空电梯镜头,从开始设计到完工共计两年时间。


美国网友:流浪地球2在美国上映了,你如何评价?(组图)



For a hard sci-fi fan like me, this movie is the real "Hollywood blockbuster" and, to be honest, it does have a certain threshold.

对于我这样的硬科幻迷来说,这部电影才是真正的“好莱坞大片”,实话实说,这部电影确实是有一定的观影门槛的。

I like Liu Cixin's works, I have read every one of his works, he represents China's hard science fiction, every work has this profound connotation. To put his works on the screen, I don't think the novel is not good enough, but the film is as good as the novel!

我喜欢刘慈欣的作品,他的每一部作品我都阅读了,他代表中国的硬科幻,每一部作品背后都有这深远的内涵。把他的作品搬上荧幕,我认为不是小说不够好,而是电影和小说一样优秀!

With the theme of the common destiny of mankind, the film shows a Chinese-style mode of thinking and a Chinese-style romantic ending, which is different from the presentation of traditional Hollywood science fiction films and reflects different values. Individual heroism is always admired and worshipped, and the spirit of sacrifice and collectivism are more moving and encouraging. Kindness, courage and sacrifice are human nature, belong to all human civilizations and transcend politics and national boundaries.

电影以人类共同命运的主题,电影展现了中国式的思维模式和中国式的浪漫结局,这与传统好莱坞科幻电影的呈现方式不同,体现的价值观也不同。个人英雄主义总是受到钦佩和崇拜,牺牲精神和集体主义精神更令人感动和鼓舞。善良、勇气和牺牲精神是人类的天性,属于所有人类文明的范畴,超越政治和国界。

The film brings you thinking about human civilization and the future, and promotes the subjective consciousness of the community of human destiny, which should be regarded as the political idea that human nature transcends national boundaries. Generally speaking, the script of this super-long film is epic, and its macro structure and details are impressive. What is particularly worth thinking about is the dialogue between Moss and Andy Lau at the end of the film. What really brings disaster (or immortality) to mankind is artificial intelligence! The future of human civilization depends on human choice.

电影带给你关于人类文明和未来的思考,并促进了人类命运共同体的主观意识,这应该被视为符合人性超越国界的政治理念。一般来说,这部超长电影的剧本堪称史诗,宏观结构和细节都令人印象深刻。特别值得思考的是影片结尾处莫斯和刘德华的对话。真正给人类带来灾难(或永生)的是人工智能!人类文明的未来取决于人类的选择。

In the vast universe, can mankind and human civilization continue? How to continue? Human beings come from the void and return to the void. What is the significance of civilization without human beings? If mankind is the creator's pet, how should we cherish and maintain the short human civilization.

在浩瀚的宇宙中,人类和人类文明还能继续吗?如何继续?人类从虚空中来,又回到虚空中。没有人类的文明有什么意义?如果人类是造物主的宠儿,我们应该如何珍惜和维护短暂的人类文明。


美国网友:流浪地球2在美国上映了,你如何评价?(组图)



海外网友肯尼的回答

Wandering Earth 2 is the best science fiction film in China and one of the best science fiction films in the world. Whether it is the plot, special effects or the values expressed in the film, it is very good. Many of the views expressed in this film are different from those in Hollywood science fiction films, and are unique in science fiction films.

《流浪地球2》是中国最好的科幻电影,也是世界上最好的科幻片之一。无论是剧情、特效还是电影中表达的价值观,都非常棒。这部电影中表达的许多观点与好莱坞科幻电影不同,在科幻电影中独树一帜。

First of all, in this film, it is not like a country (usually the United States) in Hollywood movies that saved the world, but countries and people of all countries unite to save the world. Therefore, in the film, you can see people from China, the United States, Russia, Japan, Germany, Britain, France, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and other countries fighting side by side, regardless of gender, religion or color, just to save our planet. This is also in line with the concept of "a community with a shared future for mankind" advocated by the Chinese government today, that is, to unite all countries in the world.

首先,在这部电影中,它不像好莱坞电影中某个国家(通常是美国)拯救了世界,而是各国国家和人民团结起来拯救世界。因此,在电影中,你可以看到来自中国、美国、俄罗斯、日本、德国、英国、法国、巴西、沙特阿拉伯和其他国家的人们并肩作战,不分性别、宗教或肤色,只为拯救我们的地球。这也符合中国政府今天倡导的“人类命运共同体”理念,即团结世界各国。

Second, unlike the western "individualism", this film is full of collectivism, and people are the creators of history. In Hollywood movies, there are often only a few protagonists who save the world, but in this movie, there are no lonely heroes. Every crisis is solved with the efforts of everyone. When you are fighting, there will always be someone who will fight before you. When you are ready to sacrifice, someone will sacrifice before you. When you succeed, someone will succeed before you. In the words of the film, this is called "saturation rescue". This is a completely different value from the West. The concept of collectivism in Wandering Earth 2 is unique in world science fiction films.

第二,与西方的“个人主义”不同,这部电影充满了集体主义,人们是历史的创造者。在好莱坞电影中,拯救世界的主角往往只有少数,但在这部电影中,没有孤独的英雄。每一次危机都是在每个人的努力下解决的。当你在战斗时,总会有人在你之前投入战斗。当准备牺牲时,有人会在你面前牺牲。当你成功时,总会有人在你之前成功。用电影的话说,这被称为“饱和救援”。这是与西方完全不同的价值观。《流浪地球2》中的集体主义概念在世界科幻电影中是独一无二的。

In addition, the film's response to the solar "Helium Flash" crisis is very similar to that of today's human response to Covid-2019; The imagination of artificial intelligence, aerospace technology, robots and advanced equipment in this film is also very exciting. Some plots of this film pay homage to many classic science fiction films, such as 2001: Space Odyssey, Star Trek, Guide to the Galaxy Odyssey, Waste Distribution Elevator - Earth, and so on. This film belongs to both China and the world, and is worth watching.

此外,这部电影对太阳“氦闪光”危机的反应与当今人类对Covid-2019的反应非常相似;这部电影对人工智能、航空航天技术、机器人、先进设备等的想象也非常令人兴奋。这部电影的一些情节向许多经典科幻电影致敬,如《2001:太空漫游》、《星际穿越》、《银河系漫游指南》、《废物分配升降机-地球》等。这部电影属于中国,也属于世界,值得所有人观看。

Below is my review of the first film of Wandering Earth:

下面附加我对流浪地球第一部的影评:

My basic comment on "Wandering Earth" is that there are still many shortcomings in many aspects, such as the emotional performance of the characters, the atmosphere and the rationality of the plot, but this is a good science fiction film. If people say that this film has opened a new era of Chinese science fiction films, I think it can afford it. However, this is a very good film. It allows us to understand China and can reflect China's traditional culture and ideology. I think everyone who cares about the future development should look at it, because China will definitely be in the future. More and more impacts.

我对《流浪地球》的基本评论是,在很多方面,比如人物的情感表现、气氛、情节的合理性,仍然有很多缺点,但这是一部好的科幻电影。如果人们说这部电影开启了中国科幻电影的新时代,我认为它当得起。然而,这是一部非常好的电影,它让我们了解中国,能够反映中国的传统文化和思想。我认为每个关心未来发展的人都应该看看它,因为中国肯定会在未来。产生越来越多的影响。

Today, I read an article about Wandering the Earth. As a scholar who has studied Chinese history, culture and ideology for a long time, I think this article is well written, especially the following points. The evaluation of this article is very objective, which is very helpful for us to understand the thoughts of the Chinese people. So I changed it and translated it. You may see other problems about wandering the earth. In addition, I need to emphasize that I have no intention of belittling any civilization, but in my opinion, many people are confused about the ancient and mysterious Chinese civilization. "Wandering the Earth" is a very good film that can reflect the values of Chinese people, so I analyzed it.

今天,我读了一篇关于《流浪地球》的文章,作为一名长期研究中国历史、文化和思想的学者,我认为这篇文章写得很好,尤其是以下几点。对这篇文章的评价非常客观,这对我们理解中国人的思想很有帮助,所以我把它改了一下,翻译过来,你可能会看到其他关于流浪地球的问题。此外,我需要强调的是,我无意贬低任何文明,但在我看来,许多人对古老而神秘的中国文明感到困惑,《流浪地球》是一部非常好的电影,可以反映中国人的价值观,所以我分析了它。

1: There is strong Chinese culture here.

1: 这里有浓厚的中国文化。

In addition to the brain-washing "Beijing Municipal Transportation Commission reminds you that there are thousands of roads, and the first one is safe...", there are countless unforgettable details of "Wandering Earth".

除了洗脑的“北京市交通委提醒你,道路千万条,安全第一条……”此外,“流浪地球”还有无数令人难忘的细节。

Today, some careful viewers found a moving detail. At the end of the film, the order of the rescue team is the same as the order of the international rescue team arriving at the Wenchuan earthquake:

今天,一些细心的观众发现了一个感人的细节,影片最后,救援队出现的顺序与国际救援队抵达汶川地震的顺序相同:

The Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Coast Guard sent an international emergency rescue team consisting of 31 members to Chengdu at 21:30 on May 15. This is the first foreign professional rescue team to arrive in the earthquake-stricken area after the Wenchuan earthquake. The Russian national emergency rescue team arrived in China on May 16 last year. At 14:00 on the 17th, the rescue team rescued a survivor from Dujiangyan Family Hospital. A 41-member rescue team arrived in Sichuan on May 16 and launched a search in Changhua Town, Shibu City.

日本外务省和海岸警卫队于5月15日下午21:30向成都派出了一支由31名成员组成的国际紧急救援队。这是汶川地震后第一支抵达地震灾区的外国专业救援队。俄罗斯国家紧急救援队于去年5月16日抵达中国。17日14时,救援队在都江堰家庭附属医院救出了一名幸存者。一支41人的救援队于5月16日抵达四川,并在石埠市彰化镇展开搜索。

The Singapore rescue team arrived in the disaster area of Hongbai Town, Shibu, Sichuan on the morning of May 17. The medical team is composed of 55 members of the Singapore Civil Defence Force. The Cuban rescue team, composed of 35 medical personnel, arrived in Chengdu on the evening of May 23. This is the longest international medical team in China. The Italian medical team has built five large medical tents in Mianzhu. The medical team, consisting of 25 medical staff and a German medical team, is camping in Dujiangyan, a mobile general hospital that can meet the daily needs of 250000 people.

新加坡救援队抵达石埠红柏镇灾区,5月17日上午,四川。这支医疗队由55名新加坡民防部队成员组成。由35名医务人员组成的古巴救援队于5月23日晚抵达成都。这是中国旅行时间最长的国际医疗队。意大利医疗队在绵竹建立了五个大型医疗帐篷。医疗队由25名医务人员和德国医疗队正在都江堰扎营,这是一家可满足25万人日常需求的流动综合医院。

When the Wenchuan earthquake occurred in 2008, dozens of countries sent rescue teams to the disaster areas. This is a devastating disaster. In the face of this disaster, these countries are the first to lend a helping hand.

2008年汶川地震发生时,数十个国家向灾区派出了救援队。这是一场毁灭性的灾难,面对这场灾难,这些国家首先伸出援手。

The first to arrive was the Japanese rescue team.

第一个到达的是日本救援队。

Japan and China, two countries with thousands of years of history, are also the first to lend a helping hand when disasters come. What makes people feel deeply is that "brothers crossing the waves hate each other too late"

日本和中国,这两个有着数千年历史的国家,但当灾难来临时,第一个伸出援手的也是日本。让人感慨,“山川异域,风月同天”。

In this film, the Russian is also a good partner of the protagonist, and finally sacrificed himself to ensure that the protagonist successfully completed the task.

在这部电影中,俄罗斯人也是主角的好搭档,最终牺牲了自己以确保主角成功完成任务。

Then there is South Korea, which is the third country to reach the disaster area. In the film, South Koreans also play an important role in the final mission.

然后是韩国,它是第三个到达灾区的国家,在电影中,韩国人也在最终任务中扮演了重要角色。

China is a grateful nation, and the Chinese nation will be remembered by others.

中国是一个感恩的民族,其他人对中华民族,中华民族将铭记于心。

The staff used this touching detail to recall the international rescue team in the Wenchuan earthquake in 2008.

工作人员用这个感人的细节回忆了2008年汶川地震中的国际救援队。

2: Change the stereotype that the Russians have been acting as villains in Hollywood movies

2: 一改俄罗斯人一直在好莱坞电影中充当反派的这种刻板印象

Film is the carrier of cultural output. Information technology bears the function of expressing the values and world outlook of a country or nation.

电影是文化输出的载体。信息技术承担着表达一个国家或民族的价值观和世界观的功能。

In Hollywood, Russians have been subject to strict censorship. When you recall the image of Russians in Hollywood blockbusters in the past, it is generally as follows:

在好莱坞,俄罗斯人一直受到严格审查。你回忆一下过去好莱坞大片中俄罗斯人的形象,一般是这样的:

XXX story: Russia has undergone a upheaval, and the rebels control nuclear bombs to destroy all mankind;

XXX剧情:俄罗斯发生剧变,叛军控制核弹摧毁全人类;

Russia has lost a nuclear bomb, and terrorists want to destroy all mankind;

俄罗斯失去了一枚核弹,恐怖分子想要毁灭全人类;

XXXX: A Russian missile exploded a satellite, causing damage to the International Space Station and a series of other international space stations.

XXXX:俄罗斯导弹爆炸了一颗卫星,导致国际空间站和一系列其他国际空间站受损。

In the Hollywood model, Russia is a haven for villains, a haven for mafia, a source of chaos in the international order, and a threat to the security of all mankind.

在好莱坞模式中,俄罗斯是恶人的避风港、黑手党的避风港,是国际秩序混乱的根源,也是全人类安全的威胁。

The Chinese are fed up with this discriminatory setting.

中国人受够了这种歧视性的设置。

Therefore, in "Wandering Earth", the Russians are set as firm partners and heroes, who sacrifice themselves to save the protagonist at the critical moment.

因此,在《流浪地球》中,俄罗斯人被设定为坚定的伙伴和英雄,他们在关键时刻牺牲自己来拯救主角。

In addition, the Chinese and the Russians both advocate the spirit of collective heroism and sacrifice themselves to save the collective survival.

此外,中国人和俄罗斯人都崇尚集体英雄主义精神,为挽救集体生存而牺牲自己。

So when Makarov pushed Wu Jing out, he was frozen to death in the vast space.

所以当马卡罗夫将吴京推出时,他被留在了广阔的空间中冻死。

At that moment, it returned to the old era of "advance, comrades, in order to win" and "Moscow is behind us, and we cannot retreat".

那一刻,它又回到了“前进,同志们,为了胜利”和“我们身后是莫斯科,我们不能后退”的旧时代。

No matter how many conflicts there have been before, the setting of the alliance cannot be affected. Therefore, this is a good turning point for the Russians on this "wandering earth".

无论之前之间有多少冲突,都不能影响联盟的设定,因此在这个“流浪地球”上,这对俄罗斯人来说是一个好的转折点。

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